doubles lizardmen kai Lizardmen nea lista! niki vs empire.

ToPaxyGourouni έγραψε:

kai klassika ta wood elves den kanoun alliance sxedon me kanenan ti na tous kanw tous brettonia?

Skefteite na paizan Wood elf me Beastmen mazi. evazes drycha army, enan beastlord gia general kai ekanes ta beastmen ambush kai ta forest spirits special summon apo tin drycha! ekanes deploy mono xarakthres (drycha, beastlord kai osous bray shaman xwrane) kai deftero gyro emfanizotan stratos apo to pouthena ologyra stonb antipalo! Olos o stratos skirmishing me 2 attacks to montello To 4 kai tha ginotane party!

Έχεις και τα High elves μην κλαίγεσαι. Τους Bretonnian περίμενε να τους δείς σε κανα χρόνο που θα βγει το νέο βιβλίο (και θα έχω τελειώσει και το βάψιμο περίπου) αντέ γιατί πολύ μας έχουνε στην απέξω και δεν μας παίζει κανείς

Πάντως παίζει και καλύτερο πράμα από το ambush army που λές. εγω προτείνω να σου δώσουν έναν ήρωα σε αετό με 1+ ward save και για κάθε γύρο που ζει, να παίρνεις 1000 πόντους. πιστεύω είναι πιο τίμιο

skeftomaste kai lizardmen scaven mono kai mono gia xabale alla kurios na thn spasoume stous organotes gia ta hlithia alliences.

fantasteite ena mini diorama me tous duo stratous antikri kai sth mesh enas scar vet xeirapsia me ena warlock engeneer.....

... :empire3:

Talazorn έγραψε:

... :empire3:

akribos.

prpei na fitaiksoume orismenes tier 1 listes kai na tis palepsome.

(empire wood elf)
bretonia wood elf)
(demons x2)
(isos kanena dark elf)

tha einai h liz x2 h liz -scaven

Twra pou eipes brettonia me wood elves mou thimises ena alternative WE army list, to kindred of Laurelornin pou eixe anaptyxthei sto asrai forum.
Eixane ena unit , tous Far riders, paidia twn brettonian nobles pou eixan apaxthei apo ta WE kai eixan meinei sto dasos gia panta, pou eixan mesa tous tin combat prowess twn knights kai tin beastial swiftness twn glade riders. To unit itane fast cavalry se elven steeds me light armon, shield kai lance! Xrhsimopoiouse galloping formation, pou itan lance formation me free reforms!

ToPaxyGourouni έγραψε:

Twra pou eipes brettonia me wood elves mou thimises ena alternative WE army list, to kindred of Laurelornin pou eixe anaptyxthei sto asrai forum.
Eixane ena unit , tous Far riders, paidia twn brettonian nobles pou eixan apaxthei apo ta WE kai eixan meinei sto dasos gia panta, pou eixan mesa tous tin combat prowess twn knights kai tin beastial swiftness twn glade riders. To unit itane fast cavalry se elven steeds me light armon, shield kai lance! Xrhsimopoiouse galloping formation, pou itan lance formation me free reforms!

καφέ φτιάχνανε?

ToPaxyGourouni έγραψε:

Twra pou eipes brettonia me wood elves mou thimises ena alternative WE army list, to kindred of Laurelornin pou eixe anaptyxthei sto asrai forum.
Eixane ena unit , tous Far riders, paidia twn brettonian nobles pou eixan apaxthei apo ta WE kai eixan meinei sto dasos gia panta, pou eixan mesa tous tin combat prowess twn knights kai tin beastial swiftness twn glade riders. To unit itane fast cavalry se elven steeds me light armon, shield kai lance! Xrhsimopoiouse galloping formation, pou itan lance formation me free reforms!

kai pera apo wood elves players dexontan kanenas na paixei enantia se strato pou katevaze ayto to unit?

pera apo to rule bending einai kai kafrila. dhladh sto synolo, munchkinia!

katalhgoume se dark elfs lizards

tha exei
udra
hero se cold one charion me +1 save vs shooting kai +2 se cc nomizo
5 harpies
kai ena unit me spears
kapou tha exei kai to banner me to dipla =misscast

exo to skeftomai
basika o statos tha exei ena stegadon
skeftomai tora
ancient stegadon den paizei dioti to rare einai piasmeno kai thelo skink priest kai scar vet
opote eimai metaksy tou na balo special choice stegadon kai ena lvl2 skink paei 235+150=385p
h lvl1 skink+engine105+290=395
gia 10 p diafora exo to engine to opoio tous protous 2 gyroys tha dinei +5 ward vs shooting
exei stats san anchient stegadon kai kanei meta d6 wound se ola ta enemy units se 2d6" no armor save, kai str5 vs spirits kai deamons - duo anamenomenoi stratoi.

tha doume

Me 26 pontous o enas far rider gia 4+ armor save ennoeitai oti dexotan o antipalos. Plus to list den eixe glade guard,waywatchers i forest spirits, mono scouts me 18 pts to montelo (oi scouts eixane to feint flight ability tou fast cavalry) forest hounds (kati san chaos warhounds), special brown bears (kati pio anthektiko kai ligotero damaging apo to treekin) kai oi xarakthres eite itan support kai edinan extra LD sta beasts tou army eite itan "beastkin kindernd", unarmed and unarmored kai me permanent encaht to bear's anger panw tous. A o stratos den eixe magous, epeidh sto Great forest tou Laurelornin ta "winds of magic are all but extinct".

loipon to engine einai poly akribo kai blepo na kobete h lista einai h ekshs
scar vet / cold one spear light armor shield that deflects 144p
lvl 1 skink priest 2 scrolls 105p
5 cold ones banner magic banner 220p +d6 sto charge
17 skinks + 2 krox (musician and banner) 85+110+14=203p
10 skink skirmishers 70p

ti lete?

βγαλε τα Cold ones και βαλε πεζικο ισως ? η σαλαμανδρουλες / razordorn ?

o me skkotoneis ηθελα πολυ τα cold ones.... ασε να τα δοκιμασω 4-5 games kai to ksanasyzhtame... isos exeis dikio isodinamoun me 20 saurus me spears

Ξερεις γιατι το λεω ? Οχι γιατι δεν ειναι δυνατα , απλα 1-2 ασσους να φερεις 8α φτασουν κατω 3 ;( και σε 2 με 3 γυρους που θα κανουν να φτασουν κατω ισως δεν ειναι μονο 1-2 :Ρ

Επισης αν βαλεις τον ηρωα εκει , 8α γινει 6αδα που θα τα σπαει αλλα ....

nai tha einai o hero mesa o opios exei mia aspida pou sto +2 roll oti magic missle ginei target to gurnaei piso ston caster.

opote fovase kurios warmachines, tha doume uparxei mai udra episis na kanoun target kai 2 unit harpies.

Loipon oi lista ksana allakse....
o sumexths mou zhthse to updated rulepack apo ton diorganoth kai exei errata ta lizardmen summaxoun mono me lizardmen kai distrustfull me ogres -tipota allo.
to errata auto den exei kukloforisei kai den ksero pote tha to bgaloun.
opos kai na exei ksanakoitame gia liz-liz.
oi liz-dark elf lista exase vs deamons.
shmera phra liz -liz vs deamon-deamon kai ta pathsa kato apo tis fternes ton 2 engine mou!

h lista tora
skink priest lvl2 dispel x2 engine
10 skirmish skinks
6 chameleon
kai 3 razordons

Skink priest lvl1 1 dispell scroll kai engine
10 skirmish skinks
4 terradons
4 terradons

o antipalos epeze
2x26 horrors ena me banner +1 cast kai ena me banner pou kanei dammage se close combat
5 hounds
5 h6 flammers.
2 tzenchs kai oi 2 me magiko shooting tokso
masque

proto gyro proxorao ths monades mporsta.
sto guro tou rixnei irr, force kai kanei 7 str6 hits sta chameleons (ola ekso) eno kanei kai 23 wounds sta skinkakia para to 5+ ward kai trezoun.

2o gyro ta poulia ethapsan thn masque me 2 braxia o kathenas eriksan kai javellings sth miamonada apo horros. ta alla terradons me ena braxo o kathenas ekanan 1 hound sta flamers. ta razordons me 16 voles kanoun 4 wounds. kano alignment kai ferno 5 se 2 zaria gia apostash den ftanei ta hounds. ta hounds trone ena wound apo ta javeling.

sto guro tou ta flamers rixnoun tragika kai kanoun 2 wound. failed ld efugan ta terradons.
ta hounds charge to ena steg. 8 attacks ta skulia kanoun 2 to wound vs to mago kai ta sozo logo armor save. to stegadon kanei 3 wounds. 3 wounds kai outnumber ta hounds eksafanizontai. - na sumiothei oti o skink priest exei epizhsei se chalenge vs bloodthurster me to thurster na kanei reroll. sto guro mou charge kai ta 2 stega to ena unit sto unit apo horrors kai apo plagia ta terradons. 6+4 str5 apo to allingments kai 7+4 impact hits, skotosa kai to mago tou, meta to combad kai crumble emeine me 6 horrors.

apo ekei kai pera deksia aristera mporosta skinks petane oti exounvs to allo unit. blowpipes ,agkathia,javelings, allingment.

epomenh maxh vs double vamp.
me ethereal lord mesa se 5 wraiths + banchee.
spirit hosts
1 unit zombies
1 unit ghools
2 corpse cart
2 lvl1 necromancers.

na doume kamia sumboulh?

epeksa vs vampires kai ekana ena kalo massacre.

autos eixe
1 vampire me spectral form.
2 necromancers
2 corpse cart me -1 to cast
40 zombies
20 + nomizo ghoouls
5 wraiths kai 1 banchee.
4 spirit hosts

ego eixa
lvl1 priest 2x scrolls engine
lvl2 priest 1x scroll engine
2x10 skirmish skinks
6 chameleon skinks
2x4 terradons
3 razzordons

gia spells eriksa commet kai to d3 rerolls
kai o allos to +4 ward save.

apo ta aristera olo to strato ektos apo ta razzordons kai cham skinks apo ta aristera.
ta vampires epeksan prota.

round 1
xrhsimopoihsa ena dispell scroll kai tipota den egine
sto guro mou to ena engine dinei ward save kai to allo +1 to cast 4 zaria gia commet petuxaino alla troei dispel scroll.

Round 2
deutero guro ta wraiths me to vampire pane apo aristera pros ta deksia( pros ta razzordons)
kai kanei to spell pou kanei raze neo unit sto 8 rixno 3 zaria gia dispell 3 assakia! emfanizei zombies kapioes intces mprosta apo ta chameleons.
sto 2o mou guro commet troei palei scroll.
ta chameleon pane piso 6" mpenoun se ena kthrio kai puroboloun kai skotonoun 3 apo ta 10 zombies.
kratao akoma piso ta stega.
ta razordons skotonouun 4 ghouls.

round 3
kai proxoraei ta zombies (7) dippla sto kthrio.

sto guro tou h banchee troei ena razordon kai ena skink. kanei to raise spell rixno 4 zaria pali assakia!! bazei ena unit sto flank ton razzordons (an eixan flank).
sto guro mou terror test sta razordons - flee kai sta skinks -flee.
magic commet to petuxaino sto 12 alla exo -2 apo ta carts.
ta pteradons skotonouyn 6 apo ta nea zombies (rocks)
eno ta alla terradons petane pano apo ena corpe cart kanou 4 apo ta hits sto necro alla mono ena petuxainei.

round 4
sto guro tou kanoun charge ta zombies sta fleeing razordons, opote feugoun pernane mesa apo ta fleeing skinks opote ta razzordons einai 1" apo to trapezi eno exasa ta skinks.
sto guro mou ta
stegadons kanoun march kai poly to kolobaresan kai kano 2 fores allignments.
skotono to ena corpse kart kia necro. kai skotono kai ta 7 ghools. to commet egine dispel me zaria. ta chameleon skotonoun 4 zombies me ta blowpipes.

Round 5

sto guro tou charge ta zombies 4 sta chameleon skotonoun ena chameleon kai skotono kai ta 4 zombies. eno o stratos tou furisei pros ta aristera na antimetopisei ta 2 stegadons.
ta wraiths pane sto flank tou stega kai kanoun howl kai rixnei 4 opote no wounds
.
kanei spels den pernaei tipota auththn fora kovo kai ta bound spells me zaria kai to trito mou scroll.
sto guro mou charge ta duo stega apo mprosta kai charge ta duo terradons ena apo aristera ena apo deksia. to ena kanei failed charge sto fear test.
kano 2 allingment kai gamise nomizo efaga 2,5 wraiths trelo combat efaga ola ta ghouls kai ena wound sto cart. crumble.

round 6
sto guro tou charge me ta wraiths kai to vampiri sto stega
charge ta 4 spirit host sta terradons.
charge ta 40 zombies sto flank tou allou stegadon.

leo hold ta terradons mpas kai kratisoun ena guro.
oneiro makrino omos trone 12 wounds kai kanei overun mesa sto stega.
kanei to howl ena wound sto priest ena sto crew kai 3 sto stega.
kano issue chalenge . 1 hit apo to vampiri kai to sozo sto +4.
ta zombies kanoun 0 wounds kai ego kano 3 h 4. pali xano omos.

ld 6 sta 3 zaria kratane kai ta duo stega.

sto guro mou kati pou den sunithizo na kano "CHARGE TA SKIRMISH SKINKS ΣΤΟ ΦΛΑΝΚ ΤΟΝ 34 ZOMBIES." ta duo burning allignmetns gamane pali kai menei mono to vampiri apo kai 5 wounds sta spirit host.

kapou mperdepsa tous gurous sto report h ousia einia sto telos emeine me 3 spirit hosts mono eno exo skotosei kai 2 extra units apo zombies. kai exo kai ta 2 objectives.
kai exo xasei ena mago (oxi to general) 1 razordon 0 points, 70 apo ta skinks kai 120 apo ta pteradons.

exo thn entuposh o Andy thelei na kopsei to ena engine gia kroxigors h gia chief me to spear. alla den ksero paei polu kala sta 2 games.

To mono pou den mas exei enthousiasei einai ta chameleon. mnomizo omos h aksia tous tha fanei vs dragons kai giants.

Τα ραζο γιατι πηρανε terror ? Αφου ειναι fear causing περνουνε fear μονο αμα κανουνε charge σε terror causing enemy...
Ωραια μαχη παντος με διακυμανσεις ...

Engine FTW ....

Laskoulas έγραψε:

Τα ραζο γιατι πηρανε terror ? Αφου ειναι fear causing περνουνε fear μονο αμα κανουνε charge σε terror causing enemy...
Ωραια μαχη παντος με διακυμανσεις ...

Engine FTW ....

ax nai. auta patheneis ama pezeis me proxie swarms
....

Αυτα που λεγαμε δουλεψαν ? :Ο :Ο :Ο η μλκς ελεγα παλι ? :Ρ

ntaksei ton "epeisa" gia 2 mhxanes.

See the engine, love the engine!


peksame ena emfilio lizards vs lizards kai sto telos emeinan 3 skink skirmishers apo ta 50 sto game.
kai ego eixa 3 razzordons kai ta 2 engines.
He who has the most engines wins.

Meta paiksame me ena apeiro paixth me mia non gunline empire pou to ena tou kai monadiko kanoni erikse misfire proto guro .
xasame mono ena unit skinks kai chameleon kai ena mago.
den emeine tipota, oute to steam tank tou.

aurio dokimazoume vs wood elves me treeman kai anchient treeman hero me tokso, fast cavalry kai dryad pou dinei power dispal dice nomizo.

meta apo 4 paixnidia olakala kai orea arkei na mhn spasei to stegadon sto combat.
gia na to sigourepso leo na balo ena skink army standard bearer kai na kopsoume ena razordon kai ena pteradon.

meta apo pollaplo tinkering exo 2 750 xoris na periseuei oute enas pontos.

magic brothers 1 revised750 Pts - Lizardmen Army


Andy's list.

1 Skink Priest @ 440 Pts
General; Magic Level 2; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]

1 Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods @ [290] Pts

4 Skink Crew @ [0] Pts
Javelin

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70 Pts
Blowpipe

2 Razordon Hunting Packs @ 150 Pts

6 Skink Handlers @ [30] Pts

3 Terradon Riders @ 90 Pts
Javelin

3 Terradons @ [0] Pts


Models in Army: 23


Total Army Cost: 750

My army
1 Skink Priest @ 380 Pts
General; Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods @ [290] Pts

9 Skink Skirmishers @ 76 Pts
1 Skink Brave @ [6] Pts

4 Terradon Riders @ 120 Pts

6 Chameleon Skinks @ 72 Pts

1 Skink Chief @ 102 Pts
Blowpipe; Light Armour; Shield; Battle Standard
Venom of Firefly Frog [10]


Models in Army: 23
Total Army Cost: 750

O standard bearer nai kanei 100 kai an ton fane 200p
alla
1) prostateuei 400p 500 an einai to skink priest general me to reroll tou stuborn.
2) exei bs 5 me reroll ta poison blowpipes se str 4.
3) blowpipes kai hand combat einai magical attacks.
4) ld 7 gia to unit of skinks pou sunodeuei.

to mono alla pou skeftomaste einia na kanoume gia 35p upgrade kai to deutero mago.
auto tha mas dosei 1 dispell dice ,1 power dice kai ena extra spell. tha to doume kai tha to suzhthsoume isos kopsoume ena chameleon kai to ena scroll. an kai mou arese to trito scroll.

nikh vs wood elfs.

eixe
hero me tokso hair of arrorws
wizard lvl 2 pano se monokero
branchwraith

wraiths
glade guard
5 glade riders
7 wardancers
3 treekin
treeman

ego epeza thn parapano lista sto prohgoumeno post.
ta spells mou 1,4 kai 5 sto lvl1 wizard. tha alaza to 5 gia 1 sto lvl1 wizards alla mou arese edo kai to krathsa.


ta 2 stegadon kai ena unit skinks htelan 4 gurous kunigito giana fane to treeman
eno turn one efaga 5 apo ta 7 wardancersme magic kai ta chameleon efagan ta alla duo ston epomeno guro.

eno apo ta deksia chamemlons kai salamandres proxorousan.

to ena unit apo terradons pethane proto guro apo treeman kai ta alla ekana 1 wound sto wizard kai pethanan apo charge. An kai den perimena polla apo autous se auto to game.

5 guro diko mou kano march me to ena engine kai kano burning allignment skotono 3 apo ta cavalry(flee apo panic) kai 3 dryads, oi salamandres kai ta chameleon skotonoun 9 glade guard.


5 diko tou charge ta dryads apo mprosta kai ta 3 treekin sto flank tou stega.
kano declare chalenge. kanena wound sto skink kai 1 sth wraith. kano fail to ld ALLA exo to BSB mesa se 12" opote reroll kai stay. O BSB kerdise thn thesh tou.

sto guro mou salamandres teleionouin to hero kai to teleutaio glade guard
to allo stegadon me magic skotonei to wizard kai ta skinks to alogo. to reroll ta assakia sozei to priest allo ena guro sto chalenge kai hold to stega.

teleutaios guros dikos tou skotonei to mago sto chalenge kai to stegadon skotonei thn branchwraith kai krataei.



EMEINE me 3 treekin kai 3 dryads
2 glade riders.

ego EXASA 1 mago 150p 7 terradons 210 kai miso unit apo skinks 35p.

skotosa kai general kai ta 200 gia objectives
aurio tha pekso os empire gunline me 3 magous vs tn lista mas.

Den eixe kai toso kalh lista gia 750p imho :O

XA ! Alla pantws o Treeman ta espase

Shmera tha paikso eos empire apenanti sthn lista mou.
leme gia empire gun line oi 2 listes einai
ela niko edo eisai
dokimazoume thn lista mas vs empire gun line ti les gia thn lista?
prepei na einai 2x750 me ena core kai ena hero gia general

list 1
wizard lvl 2 scroll
steam tank
mortar
2x 11 handgunners kai sta 2 + 1 champion me to sniper riffle
747 p

wizard lvl2 rod of power
wizard lvl 2 dispell scroll x2
cannon
2x 11 handgunners kai sta 2 + 1 champion me to sniper riffle
ouriders 5 o enas champion me sniper rifle

Ti lete uparxei kati allo pou prepei na kano gia na einai pio dunath pio bromikh lista?
na kopso ena mago gia engenneer h hero?
thelei kapa detachments? kapia pezika mprosta?