Chaos Mortals - 2250 - ETC

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Οι 3 μάγοι με τα δώρα κουνιούνται μαζί για το +2 to cast και σκάνε 3 magic missile το γύρο με 3 μόνο ζάρια. Λογικά θα περνάνε 4-5 spells το γύρο. Τα υπόλοιπα units είναι και hard hitters και ανθεκτικά. Το πιο αργό unit του στρατού είναι οι chaos knights

CHARACTERS
Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4, Disc of Tzeentch, Skull of katam, Golden eye of tzeentch, Enchanted shield) = 400
Sorcerer of Tzeentch (Level 2, Disc of Tzeentch, Dispel scroll, Talisman of protection) = 200
Sorcerer of Tzeentch (Level 2, Disc of Tzeentch, Dispel scroll, Spell familiar) = 200

CORE
5 Marauder horsemen (Flail) = 75
5 Marauder horsemen (Flail) = 75
5 Marauder horsemen (Flail) = 75

SPECIAL
4 Dragon Ogres (GW) = 308
4 Dragon Ogres (GW) = 308
5 Chaos Knights = 200
5 Chaos Knights = 200

RARE
Hellcannon = 205

TOTAL = 2246

Corum έγραψε:

Μια λίστα που σκεφτόμουν σήμερα.

Οι 3 μάγοι με τα δώρα κουνιούνται μαζί για το +2 to cast και σκάνε 3 magic missile το γύρο με 3 μόνο ζάρια. Λογικά θα περνάνε 4-5 spells το γύρο. Τα υπόλοιπα units είναι και hard hitters και ανθεκτικά. Το πιο αργό unit του στρατού είναι οι chaos knights

CHARACTERS
Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4, Disc of Tzeentch, Skull of katam, Golden eye of tzeentch, Enchanted shield) = 400
Sorcerer of Tzeentch (Level 2, Disc of Tzeentch, Dispel scroll, Talisman of protection) = 200
Sorcerer of Tzeentch (Level 2, Disc of Tzeentch, Dispel scroll, Spell familiar) = 200

CORE
5 Marauder horsemen (Flail) = 75
5 Marauder horsemen (Flail) = 75
5 Marauder horsemen (Flail) = 75

SPECIAL
4 Dragon Ogres (GW) = 308
4 Dragon Ogres (GW) = 308
5 Chaos Knights = 200
5 Chaos Knights = 200

RARE
Hellcannon = 205

TOTAL = 2246

Σε καθε magic phase κανεις generate/usable μονο 6 ζαρια... (+1 to cast,σε 3 μαγους...)

οι μάγοι σου δεν έχουν αρκετά καλή προστασία και για να έχεις το +2 πρέπει να βρίσκονται πολύ κοντα μεταξύ τους (3")...

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2250 Pts - Warriors of Chaos Army WoC20090222

Unit Name ## Mv WS BS St To Wo In At Ld Sv WSv Cp Dp US Cost

Exalted Hero of Slaanesh 1 4 7 3 5 4 2 6 4 8 2+ 2 240
Will of Chaos; Eye of the Gods; Mark of Slaanesh; Immune to
Fear, Terror, and Panic; Chaos Armour; Shield; Battle Standard;
Units w/in 12" may re-roll break tests
Aethersword No Armour Saves [50]
Bloodcurdling Roar Ranged attack made during shooting phase, LOS, Rng 12", 2D6 Str [20]
1 Hits no armour save
Steed of Slaanesh 1 10 3 3 3 1 5 1 7 [0]
Fear, Poison Attacks, Fast Cav

Chaos Sorcerer of Tzeentch 1 4 5 3 4 4 2 5 2 8 4+ 6+ 2 1 1 190
Will of Chaos; Eye of the Gods; Mark of Tzeentch; 6+ Ward Save
(Can be Combined with other WSv), +1 to Cast attempts; General;
Units within 12" may use General's Leadership; Magic Level 2; +2
dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2 spells.; Chaos
Armour
Dispel Scroll Dispels one spell. One use only. [25]
Dispel Scroll Dispels one spell. One use only. [25]

Chaos Sorcerer of Tzeentch 1 4 5 3 4 4 2 5 2 8 0+ 6+ 2 1 2 206
Will of Chaos; Eye of the Gods; Mark of Tzeentch; 6+ Ward Save
(Can be Combined with other WSv), +1 to Cast attempts; Magic
Level 2; +2 dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2
spells.; Chaos Armour; Barding; Miscast Table
Infernal Puppet may modify a miscast from any wizard up to +/- D3 [35]
Enchanted Shield Shield; 5+ As [15]
Barded Chaos Steed 1 8/7 3 4 3 1 3 1 5 [0]

Chaos Sorcerer of Tzeentch 1 4 5 3 4 4 2 5 2 8 4+ 6+ 2 1 1 190
Will of Chaos; Eye of the Gods; Mark of Tzeentch; 6+ Ward Save
(Can be Combined with other WSv), +1 to Cast attempts; Magic
Level 2; +2 dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2
spells.; Chaos Armour
Skull of Katam Bearer and any other Wizard (FoF) within 3" +1 to Cast [50]

Chaos Marauders of Khorne 15 4 4 3 3/5 3 1 4 1/2 7 1 105
Will of Chaos;; Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Frenzy; Immune to
Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses combat.; Great Weapon;
+2S, Always strikes last in combat except on charge, Two-handed

Chaos Marauders of Khorne 15 4 4 3 3/5 3 1 4 1/2 7 1 105
Will of Chaos;; Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Frenzy; Immune to
Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses combat.; Great Weapon;
+2S, Always strikes last in combat except on charge, Two-handed

Chaos Marauders of Khorne 15 4 4 3 3/5 3 1 4 1/2 7 1 105
Will of Chaos;; Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Frenzy; Immune to
Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses combat.; Great Weapon;
+2S, Always strikes last in combat except on charge, Two-handed

Chaos Warhounds 5 7 4 3 3 1 3 1 5 2 30
Will of Chaos;

Chaos Warhounds 5 7 4 3 3 1 3 1 5 2 30
Will of Chaos;

Chaos Warhounds 5 7 4 3 3 1 3 1 5 2 30
Will of Chaos;

Dragon Ogres 3 7 4 2 5/7 4 4 2 3 8 4+ 3 231
Fear; Will of Chaos; Scaly Skin (5+); Storm Rage: immune to
Lightning based attacks but causes frenzy; Great Weapon; +2S (+1
if mounted). Strikes last in HtH unless charging; Light Armour

Dragon Ogres 3 7 4 2 5/7 4 4 2 3 8 4+ 3 231
Fear; Will of Chaos; Scaly Skin (5+); Storm Rage: immune to
Lightning based attacks but causes frenzy; Great Weapon; +2S (+1
if mounted). Strikes last in HtH unless charging; Light Armour

Chaos Giant 1 6 3 3 6 5 6 3 S 10 6 225
No Mark; Random Attack Explanation; Ignore Little 'Un Panic,
Large Target, Causes Terror, Fall Over, Move Over Obstacles,
Stubborn, Giant Attacks
Big Things 1. Yell and Bawl, 2-4. Thump with Club, 5-6. 'Eadbutt. -
Little Things 1. Yell and Bawl, 2. Jump up and down, 3. Pick-up and ..., -
4-6. Swing with Club/Chain.

Chosen 6 4 6 3 4/6 4 1 5 2 8 3+ 1 126
Will of Chaos; Chosen of the Dark Gods: may make a EotG roll at
the beginning of the battle (reroll stupidity, and "eye is
closed"); No Mark; Option Qualifier; Great Weapon; +2S, Always
strikes last in combat except on charge, Two-handed; Chaos
Armour; Shield

Hellcannon 1 6 4 3 5 6 5 1 5 4 4+ 5 205
Unbreakable (as long as Cannon still alive); Large Target; Cause
Terror; Rampage: Start of each turn that it is not in combat
take a LD test, if failed move 3D6 toward closest enemy unit, If
contacting an enemy it counts as a charge and enemy may make
normal charge reactions (distance rolled = max charge distance);
Fires as Stone Thrower str 5, 10 under hole: Units hit by
template take a Panic test at -1 LD; Special Misfire Chart
Hellcannon Crew 3 3 4 3 3 4 1 2 1 9 5+ 1 [0]
Heavy Armour

δύσκολο να τη διαβάσω τη λίστα έτσι

oi chosen boroun na paroun kai two handed kai shield ??? :O

why not? αλλά μόνο 6 chosen πώς να την παλέψουν?

τα dragon ogres προσωπικά θα προτιμούσα την 4-άδα (γιατί το ένα θα στο φάνε με shooting/magic)

πάντως λίστες χωρίς πολύ shooting θα έχουν τεράστιο πρόβλημα απέναντι σε αυτή τη λίστα

ali8eia ??? boroun na paroun kai shield kai 2h ??? :O:O

Μπορουν ναι , αλλα στο Close Combat θα πρεπει να διαλεξεις με τι θα παιξεις . Η με Great Weapon η με Hand Weapon και Shield . Στο shooting / magic θα μπορεις να εχεις παντα το +1 armor save απο το Shield ( total 3+ )

to leei auto kapou mesa sto vivlio oti oi chosen boroun na paroun kai great weapon kai na kratane kai aspida?

το λέει στο Rulebook...

VS shooting και magic έχεις 3+ save (chaos armor + shield)
VS hand to hand έχεις 4+ save αν χρησιμοποιήσεις τα great weapons, αλλιώς έχεις 2+ save (hand weapon + shield + chaos armor)

kai dhlwneis prin kaneis charge se mia monada oti xrhsimopoieis h great weapon h shield...auto pou me paraxenepse einai gt ekplagikane arketa atoma ...mono oi chosen boroune na to kanoune auto?kai deuteron h diafora me to halberd einai ousiastika enas pondos ligoteros per model etsi? gt kai me to halberd sou dinei ena epipleon strenth kai boreis na exeis aspida nomiza pws to mono thetiko metaxu halberd-kai great weapon einai auth thanks

aaaa kai oti varas teleutaios lathos mou

by the way lista tou corum polu kalh san idea

Arkham έγραψε:

kai dhlwneis prin kaneis charge se mia monada oti xrhsimopoieis h great weapon h shield...

oxi, diloneis poio oplo tha xrisimopoieis ston prwto gyro tou close combat (eite ekanes charge eite oxi)
kai den mporeis na allakseis oplo ektos kai an apemplakeis apo ti maxi kai ksekiniseis mia kainouria

Arkham έγραψε:

auto pou me paraxenepse einai gt ekplagikane arketa atoma ...mono oi chosen boroune na to kanoune auto?

oxi polla units mporoun na to kanoun ayto (p.x. oi dwarf hammerers, black orcs, empire halberdiers, e.t.c.)

Arkham έγραψε:

kai deuteron h diafora me to halberd einai ousiastika enas pondos ligoteros per model etsi?

halberd = requires two hands, strikes in initiative order, +1 strength
great weapon = requires two hands, always strikes last (except when charging), +2 strength

Arkham έγραψε:

gt kai me to halberd sou dinei ena epipleon strenth kai boreis na exeis aspida

oxi to halberd thelei 2 xeria, opws kai to great weapon

eisai ligo mperdemenos, diavase to rulebook gia ta opla

endaxei eimai noobas sto game to exeis katalavei wraio auto me tous chosen den einai kako pandws...xaos for the win!!!!