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some other bits going about

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My source says expect a 3 point drop per model but be prepared for a drop in a stat. Chosen to go down to warriors +1 ppm and have the same statline.
I asked about MoT he said look at skinwolves
MoS is once again the cheap mark
The effect of non marked units effects their wallets none. Look at what they did to bestigors. All those people who spent a ton of pestigors/khornagors ....oh well.
Besides its not like they can't bend us over to buy marked chosen using warrior models.
Oh and source says its loss of init, but that will be upgradeable ( I'm guessing MoS)
MoN is poison. And for kormak iall I know is that its going to be ugradeable I'm betting its the warshrine effects from a MoS shrine.
Oh ya shrines going to be passive auras ie khorne shrine = frenzy / +1 attack, MosS +1 init /asf, MoN 6+/5+ posion etc of course its gonna be a 6" range so you can't bubble the whole army
Your hopes are unfounded for the sad-goth (shaggoth) it will still suck better save is all I'm hearing.
Daemon Princes are going to be worth taking again but source says sub 2k games wont see them ( i'm guessing 400+ points with a massive price hike)
As we all know our magic item bonanza will be stripped pretty hard, and gifts are going to be totally reworked.
source confirms: chaos daemon sword, armor of damnation, crown of everlasting conquest.
Daemonsword,runesword, unknown cheap sword. Runeshield, AoD, crown of everlasting,helm of many eyes are all in according to source.
Lores get updated significantly. Slaanesh is almost total rewrite except frenzy spell.
Chaos lords go down in points by 15%
Shadow is available on heroes.
Dragon Ogres are t5
Gone is the EotG rules as we know it.
Forsaken get new rules. Playtest says skirmishers.


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New Models:
Warshrine/ Chariot
Chaos Dragon
Dragon Ogres
Forsaken
New Character Models

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My source is working as a data processing monkey doing revisions on the play test documents . When they get changed and revised they pass through his entirely unethical hands. He isn't willing to post the documents up thanks to the NDA pretty bluntly saying his ass would get sued off for doing so. But he is willing to share what he is reading as it crosses his desk. Personally I take most of it with a grain of salt but most of what he tells me is usually pretty close to actual release.

Oh and if anyone cares
Chaos lord -15% points, same stat line.
100 points of War gear
50 points of "Gifts of the Gods"
Same mount options
Option to mark work different for lords. ( TZ makes you a caster up to lvl 2...)

Comes with two unnamed special rules.
First: Re-roll to all panic,fear,terror for any model within LOS.
Second: Must declare and Accept Challenges and may not flee as a charge reaction.

"Gifts of the Gods"
2 for each god work like Daemonic gifts, 2 generic.
first is cheap, second is not, cheap + expensive cannot be taken.
Khorne= better combat (Devastating Charge, Killing Blow)
Nurgle= Survival ( +1 T but -1 initative, -1 to hit)
Slaanesh = ld tricks (-1 ld in BTB, pass LD test to attack, on doubles hit own side. )
Tz= casting ( +1 to channeling attempts, +d3 casting and dispel)
Generic= generic ( +1 to AS , +1 to LD)

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More rumours, as per usual salt may be required

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Next batches you greedy little sporks
1. Warriors price drop is a hit to initative.
2. Warriors have to buy chaos armor again. 2 ppm
3. 12 per base for warrior recosting.
4. Chaos lords only get 50pts of gifts but moree have been added for playtesting.
5. Additional gifts
Generic- extended ld range/ eternal hatred/ +d3 additional attacks at base str and init 1.
Nurgle- stream of corruption/ on a d6 of 6 recover a wound at start of turn.
Slaanesh - armor peircing/ every wound suffered +1 attack and init
Khorne - collar of khorne(same effect) / extra attacks based on turn number max 10.

Forsaken -points same skirmishers scouts d3+2 attacks. Base str 5 ld 5

Ogres still are butt and are nearly unchanged only price drop

Hellcannon - works like the ok cannon monster. Move or shoot. Beats with handlers rules. Stats on gw website incorrect. Fires small blast. Magical. Cheaper. Gets a 5++ ward. Misfire sucks even harder.

Shaggoth still sucks but heavy armor option. May upgrade to ranged lightning attack similar to kholek with 12 inch range str 4 d6+ hits magical.

Last minute add on.
Daemon princes have 4+ as 5+ ward base.
Think of the new gifts with 100 to spend.
Khorne DPs are hellishly powerful. Curb stomping VC lords without issue if kitted out right.
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My source says expect a 3 point drop per order model Be prepared for a drop in a stat. Chosen to go down to 1 ppm and Warriors Have The Same StatLine.
I Asked about MoT He Said look at skinwolves
MoS is the cheap ounce mark again
The effect of non-marked effects units Their wallets none. Look at What They DID to bestigors. All Those People Who Spent a ton of pestigors / khornagors .... oh well.
Besides its not like us They Can not bend over to buy using marked Chosen warrior models.
Oh and loss of source says ict init, goal That Will Be upgradeable (I'm guessing MoS)
MoN is poison. And I know for Kormak IALL icts Is That Going to be ugradeable'm betting its the MoS warshrine effects from a shrine.
Oh shrines are Going to be passive auras ie ​​Khorne = Frenzy shrine / 1 attack, a Moss init / asf , MoN 6 + / 5 + posion etc. icts of course gonna be a 6 "range so you can not bubble The Whole Army
Your Hopes are unfounded for the sad-goth (Shaggoth) Will it still suck better save is all I'm hearing.
Daemon Princes are worth going To Be Taking aim again source says sub 2k games wont see 'em (I'm guessing 400 + points with a massive price hike)
As we all know our magic item bonanza Will Be stripped pretty hard, and gifts are Going to be totally reworked.
source Confirms: chaos daemon sword, armor of damnation, crown of everlasting conquest.
Daemonsword, runesword, unknown cheap sword. Runeshield, AoD, crown of everlasting, helm of Many Eyes are all in According To Source.
Significantly Lores get updated. Slaanesh is Almost total rewrite except frenzy spell.
Chaos Lords go down by 15% point in
Shadow is available on heroes.
Dragon Ogres are t5
Gone is the EotG rules as we know it.
Forsaken get new rules. Playtest says skirmishers.


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My source is working as a data processing monkey doing revisions on the play test documents. When They get changed and revised THEY pass through history Entirely unethical hands. He Is not Willing to post the material up thanks to the NES pretty bluntly Saying Would get his ass sued off for doing so. He Is Willing to aim share what ET is reading history as it crosses desk. Personally I take MOST of it with a grain of salt goal Most Of What He tells me is pretty close to actual Usually release. Oh and if anyone cares Chaos Lord -15% points, same stat line. Gear of War 100 points 50 points of "Gifts of the Gods" Same mount options Option to mark work for different lords. (TZ Makes you a cast up to lvl 2 ...) Comes With Two unnamed special rules. First: Re-roll all to panic, fear, terror for Any Within LOS model. Second: Must Accept Challenges and stated and may not flee have a load reaction. "Gifts of the Gods" 2 For Each god work like Daemonic gifts, two generic. first is cheap, second is not, expensive cheap + Can not Be taken. Khorne = better fights (Devastating Charge, Killing Blow) Nurgle Survival = (T 1 -1 goal initative, -1 to hit) = Slaanesh tricks ld (ld -1 in BTB, pass LD test to attack, we hit double Own side.) Tz = cast (1 Attempts to channeling, + d3 casting and dispel) Generic generic = (1 to AS, one to LD)





















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Next batches you greedy little sporks
1. Warriors is a price drop to hit initative.
2. Warriors Have to buy armor chaos again. 2 ppm
3. Basis for 12 per recosting warrior.
4. Chaos Lords only get 50pts of gifts intended for moree Have Been playtesting added.
5. Additional gifts
Generic ld-extended range / eternal hatred / d3 + additional attacks at base str and init 1.
Nurgle-stream of corruption / d6 was a wound of 6 recover at start of turn.
Slaanesh - armor peircing / every wound suffered + attack and an init
Khorne - Collar of Khorne (same effect) / extra attacks based on turn number 10 max. Forsaken-point Sami skirmishers Scouts d3 two attacks. Base str 5 ld 5 Ogres are still butt and are only Nearly Unchanged price drop Hellcannon - works ok like the monster cannon. Move or shoot. Beats handlers with rules. Gw website stats are incorrect. Fires small blast. Magical. Cheaper. Gets a 5 + ward. Even Misfire sucks harder. Shaggoth still sucks purpose heavy armor option. May upgrade to ranged lightning attack similar to kholek with 12 inch Range str 4 d6 + hits magical. Last minute add on. Daemon Princes have 4 + have 5 + ward basis. Think of the new gifts with 100 to Spend. Khorne DPs are hellishly Powerful . Curb stomping VC Lords without end if kitted out right.












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Thought I Would Have a quick try at banging out a rumor roundup as this thread is starting to get a wee bit cluttered. Some sources up new Warriors of Chaos book as early as august MOST rumourmongers peg it Into Q4 2012 . KIT-RELEASES New Models: -Warshrine / combi trolley kit [PLASTIC]. Chaos-Dragon -Dragon Ogres [PLASTIC] -Forsaken Possibly combi-kit with Chosen [PLASTIC] -Character models [Possible Troll King, Krom, Egrimm van Horstman ] No new chaos-dragon, drank a combo-kit to make Shaggoth Either normal Shaggoth gold Shaggoth Lord aussi A Possibility. Dragon Ogre-Poseable similar to the Minotaur sprues.Options for extra hand weapons or Great Weapons and overalls larger models much more Keeping in size with expectations for year Ogre Centaur.Also includes bits for Representing marks. LORDS & HEROES. - SC & Kromm Engrimm Hortsman Von Chaos Lord-price reduction [15%], same stat point line.100 Gear of War, 50 points of Gifts of the mount Gods.Same options.Comes With Two unnamed special rules; Firstly Re-roll all to panic, fear andterror for Any Within LOS.Secondly model, and declares Must Accept Challenges and flee may not have a load reaction.Option to mark work for different lords. (TZ Makes you a cast up to lvl 2 ...) Daemon Princes-based price rumoured at 80 points cheaper Than present.4 ace + 5 + ward base.100 point to Spend gifts.Wings we are 60pts. Lore of Shadow- available to Hero level casters. CORE -Warriors.Cheaper, 12 is a number thats Being mentioned.Quite Possibly Losing the Ability To Be marked.May Be Losing Some Initiative and / or Chaos Armour Armour.Chaos out if purchaseable at 2ppm -rumoured Marauders To Be getting more expensive.If Warrior can not take marks Marauders Doubt I Will Be Able to Either. SPECIAL -Chosen "to go down to 1 ppm and Warriors Have The Same StatLine" unclear as to whether this is old or new warrior price comparison. , Knights, Cheaper. Might Be-Forsaken moving to core.Skirmishers, Same points, 2 d3 attacks. Base str 5 ld 5. Dragon Ogres, T5, possible receiver of new kit syndrome. Ogres, Cheaper. RARE -Spawn, WS 5. Shaggoth-, Optional Heavy Armour, May upgrade to ranged lightning attack similar to kholek with 12 inch Range 4 str + d6 hits magical. , Shrines, Moves over to Providing passive Determined by Mark's will with 6 "range. ie Khorne = Frenzy shrine / 1 attack, a Moss init / asf, MoN 6 + / 5 + posion -Hellcannon , Fires small blast. Magical. Cheaper. Gets a 5 + ward. Misfire sucks harder.Monster Even with handlers rules.Think Ogre Kingdoms Ironblaster general rules for management purpose Move OR Fire. ARMY RULES AND OPTIONS- Eye of the Gods Either reworked Entirely gold stripped out. reworked Marks To Be added cost per model year, and not per unit. Mark of Tzeentch, no longer boosts ward save.Multiple rumor Conflicting sources: Tzeentch gets-MR1 and are Able to channel Power Dice like wizards -Tzeentch Forgeworld have regen buffs per Skinwolves. Mark of Slaanesh, cheap, Possibly Stay The Same. Mark of Nurge, Poisoned Attacks Either gold staying the Sami. Mark of Khorne, quite staying Probably The Same. Magic Items List cut down to 8th ed book standard . Chaos Daemon Sword, runesword, armor of damnation, crown of everlasting conquest, helm of Many Eyes To Be rumoured are in there, Favour of the Gods is gone. Gifts of the Gods, thesis Slightly rumors are so confusing I Will just list em by boss. Khorneevastating load, Killing Blow, collar of Khorne (same effect), extra attacks based on turn number 10 max Nurgle: +1 -1 T goal initative, -1 to hit, stream of corruption, we recover d 6 of 6 a wound at start of turn. Slaanesh: ld -1 in BTB, pass LD test to attack it hit double Own side, armor peircing, Every wound suffered an attack and init. Tzeentch: 1 Attempts to channeling, casting and d3 + dispel Undivided: 1 to AS, one to LD, ld extended range, eternal hatred, d3 + additional attacks at base str and init 1. Significantly Lores get updated. Slaanesh is Almost total rewrite except frenzy spell.




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