DH rumours

Και φυσικά θα έχει. Πλέον το range της gw και όλοι οι νέοι στρατοί είναι κατά μεγάλο μέρος πλαστικό.

και γω προτιμώ τα πλαστικά μοντέλα,αλλά οι μεταλλικοί GK είχαν άλλη γοητεία,,,

gief wh!

yea anything for this bitchies in power armor ?

1) Further reinforcement of this being a Grey Knight/Inquisition book. Almost all the chatter has died down regarding inducted IG, and allied Space Marines. This is fundamentally said to be an Astartes book with some flavoring added in.

2) Lots of talk of the book containing all Grey Knights units with only Imperial Assassins and Inquisitors w/retinues as choices not hailing from Titan.

3)Speaking of Inquisitors, they are said to reflect the entirety of the Inquisition (whatever that means), as opposed to the previous codex's "Daemonhunters" focus.

4) As you would imagine from #2 above a lot of units from the current Daemonhunters codex are missing. Daemonhosts, DeathCult Assassins, Inquisitorial Stormtroopers are all supposedly being wrapped into the Inquisitor's retinue options along with all the old favorites. These retinue units have many, many, exotic options (said to easily outstrip the Dark Eldar Archon's retinue options).

5) Lots of all new psychic powers all around, including Grey Knight Vehicles who are said to be difficult to stop.

6) Stormraven is a GO! It is also said to fulfill a critical role in the codex with the Grey Knight infantry having little access to "traditional" heavy and special weapons found in other Marine books.

7) LOTS of new independent characters, and tons of new Grey Knight fluff.

Continued chatter of both GK Terminators and powered armored versions as troops.

9) Talk places this codex at the new extreme of "elite" armies, in the 40k metagame diametrically opposed to horde type play.

10) Talk still points to March 2011 for this one.

lol ολα τα units psychic powers???

Επιτελους το codex πηρε την σωστη τροπη!
Αν ισχυσουν τα παραπανω θα ειναι απλα τελειο!

ρε δεν αφηνουν τα μαρινια και να ασχοληθουν με κανα αλλο στρατο??

οι νεκρονς ποτε θα βγαλουν καινουργο βιβλιο ξερει κανεις??

Θα ειναι μεγαλη μαλακια να βγαλουν τους stormtroopers απο το codex. Η ολη φαση του Inquisition ειναι αυτη , οτι εχουν τους βαρβατους Grey Knights , που κατεβαινουν μονο σε περιπτωση μεγαλου daemonic infestation , ενω για πιο απλα πραγματα (αψημαχιες κτλ ) χρησιμοποιουν τον πολυ μεγαλητερο αριθμο stormtroopers. Απο ποτε ριχνουν τους Finest of the Finest , για να σκοτωσουν μπεκατσες; Δεν βγαζει νοημα..
Τωρα που το σκεφτομαι , ουτε τη GW συμφερει να παιζει ο αλλος στρατο με 15 ατομα. Ενω αμα βαλει τους Stormtroopers , θα πουλησουν τρελα. Αλλα σπανια η GW ακολουθει κανονες λογικης...


Θα ειναι μια ακομα παραλλαγη του C:SM? Δεν θα το ηθελα...ας ειναι κατι εντελως διαφορετικο , κατι καινουργιο. Σιγουρα μπορουν να το κανουν...

τελικά δεν θα βγάλουν forces of imperium όλα μαζί ; .

ενδιαφέρων πάντως φαίνεται το dex από τα rumors remains to be seen

thorgrim έγραψε:

τελικά δεν θα βγάλουν forces of imperium όλα μαζί ;

Η διάψευση αυτής της φήμης ήρθε πολύ νωρίς, πριν τις πρώτες πληροφορίες. Κρίμα, πολύ θα το γούσταρα, αλλά από την άλλη, θα εξακολουθήσουμε να έχουμε και τις ούμπερ αδερφάρες και τους ατσαλάκωτους με unique χαρακτήρα

thorgrim έγραψε:

ενδιαφέρων πάντως φαίνεται το dex από τα rumors remains to be seen

Alleluja Brother! Eh, i mean, from your mouth and to the Emperor's ears.

Ε ναι καιρός ήταν να αρχίσουν να ιδρώνουν μερικοί μερικοί


Αν και να σου πω την αμαρτία μου δεν τους πολύ πάω σαν fluff προτιμώ τα ανεξάρτητα chapters .

Αντε να βγει για να κυκλοφορισει και η τετραγονη μπεκατσα μπας και αλλαξουμε λιγο τις λιστες μας! Αλλιως να παρουν πισω το δωρο τους προσ τον Δαντη και να του δωσουν κανα eternal warrior!

Vabap Bap Bap έγραψε:

Αντε να βγει για να κυκλοφορισει και η τετραγονη μπεκατσα μπας και αλλαξουμε λιγο τις λιστες μας! Αλλιως να παρουν πισω το δωρο τους προσ τον Δαντη και να του δωσουν κανα eternal warrior!

και μετα θα του δωσουν και το μικρο σπιτι στο λιβαδι με τη Λορα μεσα.. Εδω δεν το εδωσαν στον G.Thraka. Θα τον δωσουν στον κλωνο σας??

The GK will play completely different from any Marine dex before. This is going to be the elite army of elite armies you can run a 2000 point army with as little as 20 models and still have a good chance of winning games. Now on to the leaks!

Here is some clarification of the big rumors that have been floated around the Internet concerning the GK codex.

1. GK codex WILL NOT have inducted units. Allies are effectively gone!

2. If it has boobies it will not be in the GK codex if has man parts it will be in this dex. That means Penitent Engines, Argo flagellants, Priests are in.

3. GK and GKT have plastic kits and will be troop choices.

4. Release Date is March-May window.

5. The Stormraven is in (duh) and along with Penitent Engines are currently the only two Fast Attacks slots in the dex.

6. Look for HQs changing the FoC around

7. GW will not take away your toys meaning if you bought 50 Imperial Storm Troopers they will have a place in the GK codex

8. Assassins are in as an Elite slot and any type of GK army can take them.

Let us start with the mundane stuff

GKs are Space Marines they do not have Fearless or Stubborn they have Combat Tactics and They Shall Know No Fear

GKs only vehicles options are Land Raiders, Razorbacks, Rhinos, Chimera and Stormraven. All GK vehicles are immune to Shaken and Stunned. Stormraven is not a dedicated Transport.

GKs do not get Bikes, Jump Packs, or Chaplains

All GKs are psyker and their powers act very much in the same way as Psyker Battle Squad.

GKs will not have access to most Vanilla Marine Gear especially Heavy Weapons and Special Weapons (No Melta Spamming)

Let us get down to some specifics

Brother-Captain Stern has Eternal Warrior and his attacks can remove models from play.

The Grand Master gives out special abilities to GK units (Not USRs) We are talking weapon upgrades and minor wargear bonuses.

All GKs cause Deep Striking units to mishap if placed within 6 inches of any Grey Knight unit.

All GKs Nemesis Force Weapons are Force Weapons and no longer Str 6.

Unlike the Archon’s court from the Dark Eldar Codex Henchman + Witchhunter rejects are Elite slots. These Squads can be mixed and have many options. For instance the Warrior can get Storm Shields and power weapon. Henchman act more like Beast Master Squads than the Archon’s Court.

Henchman include everything Daemonhosts, Death-Cult Assassins, Argo flagellants, Priests, Stormtroopers, Warriors

Holocaust is now 12 inch large blast

Mystic is now only a teleport homer

All GK vehicles are immune to Shaken and Stunned (Sacred Hull). Stormraven is not a dedicated Transport. All GK vehicles are psykers with LD 10

Blessed is now a vehicle psychic power that picks one facing and raises the AV by 2 to a max of 14

GKs have access to GK Command Squads giving them access to Apothecaries (FNP)

Vindicare has unlimited ammo for all special shots.

Glad you guys could make it! Now it is time for the real good stuff. Let us not dilly dally! If people take these rumors and run just mention where ever you post them where you got them from that is all I ask!

GKs have access to many weapon upgrades.

GKs can pay for + str or rending for their storm bolters

Grand Masters give D3 special powers to Grey Knight units. Things like Digital Weapons, Master Crafted weapons, Wolf Standard, but with GK names.

Psycannon is Str 7 rending ap 4 either can fire 2 shots moving or 4 shots standing still.

Incenerator Str 5 ap 4 rending

Callidus Assassin = Long Fangs and Lootas no more. Works like Lictors/Marbo drops a str 4 ap 2 large blast when enters play and can still use the Neural Shredder which is now Str 8 ap 2.

The other Assassin are just updated versions of their old selves with the Culexus especially devastating to Psykers.

Their are three special character Inquisitors at least one will make Henchman Troop choices.

One GKs Special character will make Purgation Squads Troops (yes you heard that right) you can spam psycannons all you want.

One GK Special Character can take cheap termies talking Chaos Space Marine Terminator Cheap.

Grey Knights are “around” Plague Marine Cost

GKT are “around” vanilla marine termy cost.

Nemesis Force Weapons can be upgrade as well (increase initiative is one option).

Grey Knights do get a MC a cross between a Talos and Karamazov Elite choice. The plastic kit is done on this one so expect it with GK launch.

Dreadnoughts are Heavy Support.

GKT can mix and match Nemeis Force Weapons and TT/SS and get psy weapons as well.

Any GK unit can once per game gate of infinity with no deviation in the movement face and can shoot, but not assault. This could still be changed to become the new Grey Knight Teleport Attack and moved to Fast Attack slot.

Fluff– All GKs are subservient to the Inquisition beck and call. The drivers of GK vehicles are the Psykers not the vehicles themselves.

Ok guys that is it for now as I am able to get more specifics will have more updates.

Here is the latest we've heard about the galaxy's favorite sniper, the Vindicare:
Exitus weapons are said to be AP:1
Both a rifle (sniper) and pistol come as standard equipment
Weapon ranges are said to be unchanged
Unlimited special Exitus ammo types are now available: ~Apparently the Imperium sends Vindicares into the field with ammo clips now!
-Hellfire (wounds on a 2+)
-Turbo Penetrator (doubles wounds, 4d6 penetration)
-Shield Breaker (victim loses invulnerables for the rest of the game)

"The GK codex has been finalized and is currently at the printers.

There is a unit in the codex called a "Dreadknight" which is basically a psychically-infused super-terminator that counts as a monstrous creature. It looks sort of like a penitent engine but better. It has a Dreadnought CCW, lots of wounds and 2+ save.

The codex looks like it's pretty sick and will be on par with the Space Wolves for overall power. Terminators can be made troops by a special character. GKs lose fearless and gain ATSKNF. Power Armor Grey Knights get squad-based psychic powers, including a power that is like Hammerhands. There is also a squad-based psychic power that increase the strength of their storm bolters to 5.

Terminators have 2 wounds and come with a 4+ invulnerable save."

~We hear those 2-wound termys are a seperate unit from the standard 1-wound ones.

"yep cortez can make henchmen troops, so you can get stormtroopers but they are now bs3 and not nearly as good. crusaders with a marine cost and coming with a pw and ss is much more attractive.

the other real winner for henchmen are the humans that come with bolters for 5pts or storm bolters for 7pts at bs 3

other troops are the palidan termies with 2 wounds and a 5++ and can get fnp with the apothicary

pergitor squads with all the extra special weapons can become troops too.

vindicar assassin is 0-3 and have the special rounds that are quite nasty
4d6+rend vs. armor
wound on a 2+
take inv save away for the rest of the game

loses his night fight rule but still has stealth.

psy cannons are str 7 with rending

drednight with gattiling psy cannon is only str 5 but 12 shots.

the palidan termies do not have EW.

havent read into the special chars much yet as i havent had time. but ill have a chance after x-mas.

some weapons that are new for the gk
sword that grants +2 str
halbriad that grants +2 int
one more but don't remember.

playtesting the gk the army with full squads of crusader humans and assassins in a crusader will wipe most things in one assault phase, which i can see lots of people taking. I can also see lots of people running the bolter/SB spam since they are dirt cheep.

the basic grey knights top out at 20 pts little more for the justicar.

there are transports for the henchmen granted you can fit them in.
gk army has access to landraiders, rhinos, stormravens, and the chimera.

stern- beleive has a ss but have not read to him yet.\

the callidus assassin got better as when she/he appears it does d6 wounds to the unit that is ap 1/2 dont remember, then can shoot the flamer then assault as normal.

normal gk dont have access to meltas. meltas are a rare occurence in the codex. "

μυριζει σπασμωδια κ τουτο. Καλη φαση!

mandragora έγραψε:

pergitor
drednight
palidan
halbriad

Ξέρω ότι θα έπρεπε να είμαι ευγνώμων για τις πληροφορίες, αλλά δε κρατιέμαι να μη σχολιάσω... όλα τα ΑΜΕΑ παίζουν? Τί σκατά; Τόσο ξεχωριστό είναι το νέο 'dex που έχουν εφεύρει νέα ονόματα για όλα τα όπλα και τα Units?